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Swire Mariners Association

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Ship's Log Entries 2009

An interesting year, without a doubt. The world economy collapsed, CNCo announced its move from Hong Kong, and the rest of us had a beer as usual. Certainly, this was one of the busiest years in this forum. Keep the input coming, chaps, sober or otherwise.

Entries are in reverse chronological order...
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December 31, 2009 - 12:11 PM
David Walker
walkeratsea@hotmail.co.uk

  Great Mark. Why was'nt the "Stu Elf" wearing socks of a red, white and blue colour arranged in a blue vertical bar and transposed in red and white diagonal segments.

Have just returned from Darkest NOSS MAYO after an unplanned session in "The Swan" with Madeley. Will be there longer tomorrow. The Tide is higher and lower as the pints wil be which allows me to walk, with Madeley across The River. Work that one out as only one of us has a "J" in our initials.

HAPPY NEW YEAR.
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December 31, 2009 - 05:32 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Simon Cowell eat your heart out!
Happy and Prosperous and Healthy New Year to all.
(May be off-line for some time, about to try and transfer everything to a new laptop so may lose the whole bloody lot!)
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December 31, 2009 - 03:17 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Brilliant Mark.......I wonder if I can make Britain's Got Talent with that.

Anyway.......Happy New Year everyone and I really hope that 2010 brings greater happiness to all our members and their families. I know mine hasn't been doing very well over this year, or even previous years.
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December 30, 2009 - 05:28 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Oh, alright.. may as well finish this year with the same sense of humour we're going to need in the next :)

Send your own ElfYourself eCards

I believe that this link may be shortlived, so enjoy it while you can! If you can, that is - MAJB
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December 26, 2009 - 09:13 AM
Davey Crockett
jamesesq@netvigator.com http://www.denoleggart.com

  Merry Christmas to all.....that Ed... fellow has got me making Christmas videos to every grandchild in Scotland......I am surprised Mark hasn't been showing his bit a acting skills! What a dancer....David cooperfield in Japan has got one too! I just can't wait for Stu to screen his debut?
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December 24, 2009 - 04:36 PM
Darrell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  From the land where the sun rises first on Christmas Day Jennifer and I wish all SMA lads and lassies wherever you may be a joyous and peaceful Christmas and a Happy, Healthful and Prosperous 2010.

May the wind be always at your backs, the sun shining on your face and a glass of malt be in your hand.
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December 24, 2009 - 11:13 AM
Bernie Simpson
bernie.simpson@optimumski.com

  Wishing all SMA members, in all parts of the globe a very Merry Christmas & Happy New Year.
Shame about CNCO moving out of Hong Kong but it's the sign of the times.

Ciao
Bernie
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December 24, 2009 - 05:20 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  And the same to you,Mark. Let's make 2010 a healthy one.
Cheers to all.
MDB
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December 23, 2009 - 09:54 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  The web-brat has yet again failed to notice the passing of the days during the past month and has, therefore, failed to dispatch Christmas Greetings of the felled tree variety to all those he might have liked to. I shall spare you indelicate animations of farting reindeer or Hip-Hopping Santas and simply use this facility to wish all at the SMA a wonderful Christmas with family and friends and a happy, prosperous New Year.

May the malts be with you!

Mark
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December 19, 2009 - 02:31 AM
John Kelly
john.kelly15@virgin.net

  Dear All,
Just to get my Christmas Greetings and Best Wishes for the New Year in early.
Take care and fair winds.
Yours aye,

John Kelly (1964-1967)
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December 18, 2009 - 07:36 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  Well, I'm not in the photo, they've all got hair.
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December 18, 2009 - 06:53 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I know the faces but just can't put names to them!
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December 17, 2009 - 02:39 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Ho ho ho. We're elf and safety.
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December 14, 2009 - 05:15 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Must have been a bad batch of Famous Grouse, it is on offer in supermarkets here at around £9-. per litre. Spent a few days in Warwickshire and saw a chap, from the former dominions, loading 12 cases into his car!
Am meeting Ben Aldis for lunch in London tomorrow so may be "off the air" for a couple of days to recover!
I have booked flights to Oz mid-Feb but will be in Tasmania for most of the time so you'll be safe Bob!
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December 13, 2009 - 11:38 PM
bobsteer

  Most Ancient of The Ancients

You are absolutely correct,Chester for the afternoon pub visit with the barmaid drawing the pints for a thirsty 25 Swiremen.Plymouth for that fantastic Plymouth Gin distillery visit ( and the sampling ).Auckland for the curry lunch and the thirst that that brings with it and the quenching of same amongst the Kiwi men.Finally and not least is our own annual end of Febuary thirst quencher amongst the many Swiremen present.
The Gordons,Schweppes,a block of ice and slice of lemon,may you all enjoy as I do on Christmas Day and may there be enough of them.

MERRY CHRISTMAS
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December 11, 2009 - 08:41 AM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  Jim,

Just purchased a few bottles of Famous Grouse as it was reduced from Euros 16.50
to Euros 9.95 per litre. Seemed a good deal but it doesn't mean it will last any longer! The Ancient Mariner will likely have a comment as he generally only touches the Malts!!
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December 11, 2009 - 05:15 AM
Jim Snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  BBC news-the first batch of English made whisky for a 100 years is now on sale,would our Scottish members care to comment,also what do they consider is the best Scotch at a reasonable price,I like Famous Grouse.
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December 09, 2009 - 06:58 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Bob will go anywhere for a drink!!
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December 08, 2009 - 04:27 PM
bob steer

  A follow up to six white boomers,A Manly lawyer has played Santa and organised a trip on the 0800 hrs.Manly ferry to sydney every 24th.decenber.
He arrives at the wharf in his Santa suit with his sack full of small gifts and about 50 or so gather in the bow of the ferry and led by santa sing Christmas carols on the 30 minute trip over to sydney Cove.We stay on the ferry and on the way back to Manly crack a bottle or two of champers which rather starts off the celebrations.
Every body is welcome with all the kids getting a gift and rather a nice thing to do.
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December 08, 2009 - 01:43 AM
Gilbert Reid.
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  I personally don't know Chris Frappell but some SMA members around mid Oct. on this Log were enquiring as to his whereabouts. The B.C.Ferries latest newsletter "The WAVE" which they send out to their retired employees has an article celebrating 50 years on the Chemainus-Thetus Island-Kuper Island route which includes a photo of Capt.Chris Frappell, Marine Superintendent, Southern Islands.

Thanks, Gilbert. Chris's work contacts are chris.frappell@bcferries.com and (250) 537-1478. In our Members' List, his personal email is frappell@shaw.ca which hopefully remains up to date - MAJB
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December 03, 2009 - 02:28 AM
Alan Perry

  She opened her mouth and aired her vocals in front of Simon Cowell for a few seconds and now, a multi-millionairess. Alistair Darling will be happy, more money to throw at minority groups in order to boost Labour's impossible election chances.
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December 02, 2009 - 09:38 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Attn: Alan Perry, Esq.

http://www.popeater.com/2009/12/02/susan-boyle-album-sales/

What a gal!

Mark
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December 01, 2009 - 11:32 PM
bobsteer

  Great work Mark you know the words,sing the song and if you could only skull a XXXX I would make you an honary Cane Toad!!!!

Delighted, sir! XXXX no problem, and this is me for sure:

"Cane Toads are large heavily-built amphibians with dry warty skin. They have a bony head and over their eyes are bony ridges that meet above the nose. They sit upright and move in short rapid hops. Their hind feet have leathery webbing between the toes and their front feet are unwebbed. Cane Toads may be grey, yellowish, olive-brown or reddish-brown, and their bellies are pale with dark mottling. Male Cane Toads are smaller and wartier than females. During the breeding season males develop dark lumps (nuptial pads) on their first two fingers; these help them cling to a female while mating. Their mating call is a long loud purring trill." (source: Wikipedia) - MAJB
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December 01, 2009 - 12:32 AM
Wallaby Supporter

  Proud All Black Supporter - you will be pleased with result against "Les Blues", inspite of having to wear white (no surrender) We finally had a good game too - the Welsh singing was rather muted to say the least.
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November 30, 2009 - 04:45 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  The beach scene in six white boomers is surely a certain retired Asst. Supt.?
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November 29, 2009 - 11:40 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  For all Rolf Harris fans out there (anybody? anybody at all?) here's Bob's Christmas song which is sure to stir the heart as it soars to the lofty, exalted peaks of musical excellence (Oh shut up - Ed.)

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November 29, 2009 - 08:45 PM
bobsteer

  To all those who appreciate fine music,never mind silent night and the lessor known hymns,I heard this rendition of Rolf Harris's famous Australian Hymn,Six White Boomers....

Six white boomers,snow white boomers,
racing Santa Claus through the blazing sun
Six white boomers,snow white boomers on his Australian run..etc.

WHAT IF WE ALL SING THIS AT MIDNIGHT
on the 24th.Wouldn't it be luverly!!!!
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November 27, 2009 - 06:30 AM
Alan Perry

  Yes David, the final track is a beautiful rendition of "Silent Night",
The star track is "I Dreamed A Dream" but all tracks are very good.

No David, I will not be buying you one for Christmas (although I no doubt owe you several for past favours) but I will think of you whilst I open the Chateauneuf du Pape on Christmas Day.

Do please pass on my best wishes to Kakubari-san.

Compliments of the season to the lovely Chrissie and your good self.
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November 27, 2009 - 06:05 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  To follow on from Ancient Mariner's Swire penthouse story.
I was there only one time,at retirement,it was shared with Mickey Seale who was retiring from the HK Marine Department about the same time,they took the opportunity to kill two birds with one stone.I had been off the grog for a some time,the stomach having rebelled at all the grog poured into it.It is extremely painful to watch others swilling down fine wines and other choice potations and having to drink tonic water.

I did meet Captain Torrible for the first time,we had a short but interesting talk,he had retired shortly before I joined CNCo,the years roll by very quickly.
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November 27, 2009 - 03:41 AM
Anon Bangkok

  Is there any Christmas songs on this CD and if so is Perry buying it for my xmas present.
By the way Alan, I am having a few Saki's with Shosuke Kakubari tonight I will pass on your regards.
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November 27, 2009 - 02:47 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  I have it as well.......lovely voice.
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November 26, 2009 - 07:29 AM
Alan Perry

  It is a pity Susan did not air her vocals at last Saturdays game at Murrayfield, the strine's would have received a proper lesson in playing rugby. Never mind she will probably be available to sing alongside Dame Kiri at the final. They will not win but at least the Scots will be worthy adversaries.

Yes, in old age, Jack is becoming a little sentimental, shedding a tear into his sixth pint !
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November 26, 2009 - 06:46 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  You sentimental old thing!
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November 26, 2009 - 05:48 AM
Alan Perry

  I have just received my long awaited copy of Susan Boyle's debut CD "I Dreamed A Dream" (see 16 April 2009). It is a truly beautiful work of music and does indeed bring a tear to the eye - if you know the background behind this (Britain's Got Talent).

Susan has just commenced a tour of the States and when she arrived, someone in the crowds waiting at the airport asked her how she was feeling. In a very one-horse Scottish village accent she replied "bluidy fantastic".

The CD would make a worthy Christmas present.
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November 24, 2009 - 03:11 PM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  It must have been that laser treatment I had!!
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November 24, 2009 - 02:42 AM
bob steer

  The camels thirst has been quenched,thank you Nick and your and your fellow Kiwis
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November 23, 2009 - 02:20 AM
stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  He never could count.......must be all the ale
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November 22, 2009 - 12:15 AM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  I was the one millionth visitor to the SOFA web site. Do I get free beer??

Not a drop until you learn how to count :) - MAJB
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November 20, 2009 - 09:03 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Bob,
I do remember one cocktail party in HK in the Swire penthouse, we were mostly outside on the roof when I had to visit that small room. The then Taipan, John Browne, was standing at the french windows and as I approached to go inside he held out his hand to shake and said "Goodnight,Captain, so glad you could come"!!!! I defy anyone to say "I'm not leaving,just going to the 'loo". I left and waited in the Captain's Bar at the Mandarin for the other to eventually join me!
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November 20, 2009 - 06:11 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Attention.....

Unfortunately, the last of those wonderful SMA mugs has just been sold but I have had several requests for more. Therefore, I am going to have to ask all members, just how many of you are still interested before I place another order with the makers. My next letter to everyone will be asking the question so that I can gauge the interest.

I am sure that HRH would be delighted to drink her home brew in an SMA mug.
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November 20, 2009 - 01:55 AM
Gilbert Reid.
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  Mark,
you'll no doubt be receiving an invite to the Queens Garden Party as the SMA web site will shortly record it's 100,000th.visitor. Tell her about Stu's mugs. I've been using mine on a daily basis for 6 weeks now and have had no leaks.

You should probably see a doctor, Gilbert - MAJB
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November 18, 2009 - 09:45 PM
bob steer

  I see the booze is arriving for the Swires Christmas party and you dare to say the outports, just try the hub of the universe,roll it over your tongue and taste the Gordons Gin we have at these parties,the oysters,prawns,smoked ham,barramundi,the fruit of the southern ocean and of course the air con which is switched off at 5 o'clock!!! (that's 1700hrs.
Remember the occasions in H.K.you were not encouraged to linger when the same thing happened the room temperature rose and The Wanch became more attractive.
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November 18, 2009 - 05:49 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Well, well, well! Mark, I didn't realise that Bowral is so far into the scrub that they still drive on dirt roads. Here in Central Queensland ("the bush") while the roads are more like goat tracks - at least they are sealed !!!!

Well, Alistair, the picture was only taken recently during one of Bob's weekly deliveries.. but I'm sure he'll comment if there are any inaccuracies. That said, the camera never lies... :) - MAJB
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November 18, 2009 - 12:31 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  And if he's not at the bar, he'll be in the Gents...
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November 18, 2009 - 04:41 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  What's all this Bob, getting booze off Swires? We're missing out here, outports win again!
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November 17, 2009 - 10:01 PM
bob steer
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  Why should I worry I am off to the AKL bash on Sunday,The Swire Taverners in Sydney on Friday and then swires do in the Boardroom a couple of weeks after that,that should bring my Christmas partying to an end!!!!
ON THE LOWER REACHES OF THE fLY THERE LIVED AN OUTCAST EX PATROL OFFICER,WHOSE NAME WAS "scungie".hE RAN ATIMBER MILL AND WHEN i LAST SAW HIM HE WAS DULLDOZING AN AIRSTRIP OUT OF THE JUNGLE.hE WAS ALWAYS GOOD FOR A COLDIE AND QUITE OFTEN WOULD COME UP RIVER WITH THE NATIVE LABOUR FOR THE WARE SHIP AT THE MOUTH OF THE fLY AND THE ODD DRINK OR TWO,WOULD JUMP OFF WHEN WE REACHED HIS MILL UNTIL WE RETURNED WITH THE LABOUR FORCE IN A FEW DAYS TIME.qUITE A CHARACTER HE WAS GOING TO FLY sWIRE MEN IN TO HIS AIRSTRIP,i WOMDER WHAT HAPPENED TO HIM AND HIS PLANS?
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November 10, 2009 - 06:13 PM
MIGUEL ANGEL BERUMEN
gordumen@yahoo.com

  IS A PLEASURE TO SIGN SO HONORABLE MARINES BOOK ASOSCIATION , BECAUSE I´M A MARINE OFFICER TOO
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November 04, 2009 - 10:35 PM
bob steer

  Away for a few days organising more vines to be planted to cater for the thirsty one's possible visit.I am sure he could drink Tassie dry and give a damn good attempt in the Harbour Bridge city but here in Bowral we will be ready.Everybody seems to have scarpered with even the baresy possibility of THE visit and on second thoughts I might go and pull those vines out again for after drinking Canadian and Tassie brews his pallete mightn't be ready for Bowrals finest
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October 30, 2009 - 02:19 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  About to depart for a week in Welsh Wales, big sister's 80th so I' m travelling with a mixed case of Oz, SA and Chilean plus some champers. Got worried when I saw that Bob had booked a flight to attend something on 21/22 Nov then remembered it's NZ so breathed a sigh of relief! (For those not aware, there is a Copthorne near Gatwick. Mind you, Bob is not Known for his navigational expertise so.....). I think the landlord of The Denbigh might use those pics in his next brochure,(where the hell did you get them Mark?). The landlady is originally from The Philippines, and has two cousins working for her so we have occasional chats about Manila.
Advanced warning, have asked travel agents for prices/offers to Oz for Feb., to visit youngest in Tas. but might make a brief diversion to Sydney.
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October 29, 2009 - 11:30 PM
bob steer

  Seeing the scene below reminds me,so I have now booked a room in the Copthorne for the 21st.and 22nd.of November,which means I have also booked the flight,booked a seat at the reunion so all set to go.I will be in the bar of the COpthorne about 1800hrs.Saturday with a thirst of a camel.
Cheers.
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October 29, 2009 - 11:13 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://babytes.com

  No, that's JM's ship, Bob! I expect AM has accommodations upstairs. I'm sure he gets his regular seat and priority service, too..

And none of that Aussie rubbish, either.  I'll drink my beer warm, thank you.
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October 28, 2009 - 11:08 PM
bob steer

  How dare you !!!!If the Most Ancient One spends Monday,Wednesday Thursday,Friday,Saturday AND Sunday at the pub he has every right to park where he likes, in fact with those hours he most likely owns the bloody pub.
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October 26, 2009 - 09:45 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  A pint of WHAT?  Sorry, sir, we don't sell Ouzo by the pint.
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October 24, 2009 - 05:53 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  John,
Mon., Wed.,Fri.,Sat., in The Denbigh at 1730, Sundays at around 1330! And any other time it suits!
Cheers,
Maurice
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October 23, 2009 - 12:27 PM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  Ancient Mariner,

We are visiting UK from 15th December for 28 days and intend to pass thru Bexhill. If you let me know when the "meetings" are I will try and schedule a visit to coincide.
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October 23, 2009 - 05:47 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  JWM
Best wishes on your final (?) retirement, enjoy it. I am a little disappointed that you are not returning to Bexhill, we could have started a sub-branch of SMA.
It does look as if we might have had the "golden age" of CNCo but we mustn't be despondent, I'm sure the Company will get through the present difficulties and bounce back, albeit without the expat presence.
Hope to see oyu in Cyprus one day soon.
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October 23, 2009 - 04:17 AM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  Bob,

Many thanks old chap. You have an excellent memory. How things have changed since those halcyon days. I believe SPO is now dry and CNCo might as well be. Keeping the duty free bottle of Gordons for Sundays when all Seafarers are remembered!!!.

Cheer Bob.
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October 23, 2009 - 12:47 AM
bob steer
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  As do I john wish you all the very best in your "retirement".
I will never forget travelling by indonesian bus from Jakarta to join your ship in Merak.A bus without any windows an extremly dirty dusty and painstakinly long trip with the driver stopping every now and then to buy petrol in a five litre plastic container off a kid on the roadside.Was I pleased to see the ship waiting alongside for me and further pleased to find the Master waiting for me with silver tray complete with the necessary bottle,Gordons of course, a couple of Schweppes and a tub of ice.Beautiful memories I might go and have one now.
Cheers John
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October 22, 2009 - 09:09 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Think this is bad?  You want to see the nude scene...

We've been sent these lookalike pictures of a famous RTHK actor (a.k.a. dirty old poofter in drag) and a world renowned genius. Trouble is, we're not sure which is which. Can anybody help?
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October 22, 2009 - 03:44 PM
John Madeley
johnmadeley6@aol.com

  Signed off Pacific Horizon (Miho Mk 2) on 19th Oct.
Finally, at the tender age of 61 and over 39 years service, CNCo/SPSM have decided that there is no longer a place for this Master Mariner in their manning establishment. It has been a most enjoyable & fascinating career, including the 14 years I spent as “Anchors” in SPO The turmoil that is occurring in HK has and will continue to impact on morale amongst the few remaining British & Commonwealth Officers and the rumours of laying up ships filter through on a daily basis. I suggested that if money was to be saved then a move to Djakarta might be considered. After all, many of our ships pass through Tg Priok as well as S'pore. Limassol would have been good as I could have applied for a shore job! There was a distinct lack of humour in the reply. Not sure when/where my sayonara party will be but if it is in HK then I guess I will be one of, if not the last, to extinguish the lights. Singapore would be interesting as I know considerably more chaps there than in HK. Any old shipmates who are considering a holiday in Cyprus will be very welcome to visit Diane & I in Polis. Tel. Numbers etc in the members section. Hope to see you at a SOFA gathering next year.

A most notable post, John, and thanks for letting us know. I'm sure I speak for all your mates in wishing you the best for your next career, whatever that might be. Can't see you just sitting back and whacking down the Ouzo, somehow. Shan't expect so many beers out of you from hereon now that CNCo have killed your entertainment budget, but the quality might improve. All the best to you both - MAJB
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October 19, 2009 - 09:57 PM
James Crockett
http://chp.ish-lyon.cnrs.fr/Collection_Warren_Swire.php

  I don't know if I am repeating something we know already, but I got this site from an old Scottish friend from Aberdeen. It is a collection of photographs taken by Warren Swire. Since CNCo. is being moved to Singapore, I thought this might stir some memories!

Below on this very page, Jim, but thanks anyway. It's a great collection of pictures. To save scrolling click here, folks - MAJB
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October 14, 2009 - 11:34 PM
Warwick
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  With all the talk about beer, I recently visited my daughter now working/living in Melbourne. They took us into a 'Beer Suop' with over 200 different brands. Anyone up to the challenge to beat this #. I can think of about 30 plus. Collectively, with all that experience out there we could go close???
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October 14, 2009 - 01:11 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Tried contacting Christian before my trip to VCR but I think my info is out of date as I had an address in the City!
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October 14, 2009 - 10:13 AM
David Walker
walkeratsea@hotmail.co.uk

  Ben,
Try Christian Frappell now living on Vancouver Is and is I think safety officer for BC Ferries. Nanaimo is the mainland terminal for The Vancouver Is ferries. em. perhaps Stu has it if not GAH ?
Cheers David
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October 12, 2009 - 07:55 PM
Ben Aldiss
jamesaldiss@iprimus.com.au

  Wondering about old friends. The recent talk about Canada and BC has made me wonder.Does anyone hear of , or about, Mark and Vicki Jennings- Bramley who when last reported circa 1980,were in Nanaimo BC.
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October 11, 2009 - 10:29 PM
bob steer
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  I have decided to give a boost,at least the food and wine sections of it to the Kiwi economy by going over and tasting what is on offer at the reunion in November.I know a few of us at our reunion at the beginning of the year,threatened to go overand taste the grape and with the dollar as it is now is a good time to do it!!!
Any others interested,Nick has promised not to talk rugby!!!
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October 10, 2009 - 12:06 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Gilbert,
Don't think I can stay long enough to do an in-depth COL study, it was minus 8 here last night, now had to buy some T-shirts to go under the sweaters!UK will seem quite mild when we get there on Friday.
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October 10, 2009 - 02:59 AM
Gilbert Reid
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  AM. I'm sure you'll find that if you stay in B.C.for any length of time it's actually a lot cheaper than living in the U.K. and that is including Seniors free travel passes. It seemed to me that when back in Fife I was the only bus passenger paying in cash, most others were flashing a Seniors card. Also the exchange rate doesn't help. A few months back £1=C$2, when I arrived back in Canada from visiting Warwick & Auld Scotia £1=C$1.6.
Thanks to Stu. who took this Warwick bound traveller "destitute with wrong PIN No." from Heathrow to a Royal Bank of Scotland branch in High Wycombe where I got some "Poonds". Found the RBS has a novel way of increasing the value of their bank notes. (Scottish banks can design & circulate their own notes). On the back of their £5 note is a picture of golfer Jack Nicklaus. Seems Americans are paying way over the face value to get their hands on them. I wonder how low the exchange rate has to go before the Bank of England puts a famous personality on the back of their notes. Mickey Mouse comes to mind!!
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October 07, 2009 - 08:31 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Is Cheltenham still in England? I thought it was given to the Irish racing fraternity some years ago!
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October 06, 2009 - 12:45 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  After 12 days in Canada I have finally found a beer I don't really like, it was suggested by a chap in the liquor store here in Kelowna so I guess he was shifting redindant stock! Supplies were running low but No.1 son arrived from UK yesterday with the duty frees so we should last out until we depart on 15th. Mis-judged the weather a bit and had to buy a couple of sweaters in Wallmart. Glad I don't live here, seems awfully expensive for food and booze. Interesting Sunday lunchtime beer, sitting in a place called Boomers Bar watching ice hockey through a plate glass window,beats standing on a muddy touchline watching rugby!
Off to culture at museums and art galleries but noticed nearby a place called O'Flannagan's Bar!
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October 06, 2009 - 12:44 AM
Mark Beaumont
mabeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  is hopping across The Pond for a few days 7-20th October (great timing, eh? Just missed Warwick.. ) and so will be pleased to catch up with those within drinking distance of Cheltenham. Number there will be 01242 525871.

Mark
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October 02, 2009 - 07:09 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  When on the NGAL run in the early 1960's one met an interesting number of characters. Here is a photo of Reg Morton (also known as "The Tarmac Terrier" for obvious reasons) who amongst his various duties used to take the heaving lines ashore when berthing at Lae.

Which way to Lae?...Well, boss, I usually gets on top...
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October 02, 2009 - 06:41 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  The bald pates at the meet at Warwick reminds me of a comical story told by Geoff Mackenzie of Rabaul Stevedores 1963.

An elderly Cockney lady is talking about her husband Harry who she says is a master of the art of repartee,he is never at a loss for a reply.

She relates of the time they went to the Hippodrome to see the evening show and were slightly late,they were walking down the centre aisle to their seats when a spotline suddenly shone on Harry's bald head,Tommy Trinder-a comedian of an earlier era was on stage and loudly said 'thats a fine head of skin you have there my man' and Harry without a moments hesitation came straight back 'get f....d.
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October 01, 2009 - 04:11 PM
Anita Knight
anitasoho@hotmail.com

  Hello,

Just discovered the web site.

I was on Coral Princess '84 to '88 approx.

Great to see some very familiar faces.

Have been at sea ever since (apart from a sojourn in Mexico) Been with Princess Cruises for the past 13 years.

Very best wishes to anyone who remembers me.
Anita

Hi Anita! How could we ever forget you - hey, send us a pic, we need somebody with hair left to brighten our days :) - MAJB
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September 27, 2009 - 07:30 PM
James Crockett

  Surprised you hadn't been told!.....(AM)
The place you were at! Is called Hong Couver, that's what it was called in the 1970's. I was on a tug-boat there and I went into a barbers shop for a short-back & sides. When I talked to the owner in Cantonese, he was shocked and turned very nasty! He said, "Wait a minute!" and took off and then came back instantly dragging his ten year old son, shaking him in a fit of temper.
He pointed at me, 'Rattling the poor kids teeth', He was yelling, "This Gwai Lo can speak Chinese, and you don't know one word!" And the little guy was yelling in defense, " This Is Canada Dad! This Is Canada Dad!...........
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September 27, 2009 - 06:39 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Day 5 in Canada and I haven't yet found a beer that I don't like! Shall keep trying until I do.
Four days in Vancouver and no rain, but are there any Chinese left in HK? They all seem to be over here!
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September 26, 2009 - 04:30 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  GAD uses furniture polish.
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September 25, 2009 - 01:00 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Maybe the SMA should field a team...

Before and laughter...

Pictures of the SMA meet at Warwick have surfaced. Click the link.
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September 25, 2009 - 12:23 AM
Warwick
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  Alister,

You are right mate! the Wallabies could not beat time with a stick or even a boomerang. Goodness knows how they will go on the 'Grand Slam' tour to the Northern hemisphere later this year??
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September 24, 2009 - 04:05 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Bob, don't you believe it, the way we played we couldn't even beat a school first XV, never mind the Pumas. - At least they have a chance to improve !!!!
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September 24, 2009 - 02:52 PM
James Crockett

  Now we know what happened to the ship.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcU4t6zRAKg
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September 22, 2009 - 12:58 PM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  We had a great weekend at Warwick and it would be true to say that some had a greater weekend than others. We know who they were.

One of our members has found his way home with me, he's obviously captivated by the sight of the Centre of the Known World, High Wycombe, and I'm currently trying to keep him entertained in all the local pubs. Therefore, I can't really get down to writing the report until next week, when he leaves for all points north and then San Francisco.
Fear not though, a report will be put together soon and members will receive a copy within the next few weeks.
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September 22, 2009 - 05:03 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Can't wait for Stu's report on Warwick as THE BOSS is in panic mode for departure before dawn tomorrow! Thought you should know that we kept up the reputation for abstemious living. Found one SOF, nameless, trying to open his room door with a parking ticket. Went for a quick beer Sat. lunchtime, asked by barman "How are we this morning ,sir?" then told I couldn't have the beer requested because that one had been consumed on Friday evening and now awaiting new barrel to settle! Must have been evaporation.
Great weekend Stu, many thanks.
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September 20, 2009 - 08:04 PM
bob steer

  There is a very strong rumour going around that the wallabies are shifting to Singapore as well or even if its not a rumour it should be!!A report in the morning paper that the tri-nations should include the Argentine then the Wallabies wouldn't come last.
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September 19, 2009 - 10:23 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Re the CNCo. move from Hong Kong to Singapore, I wonder if the next change will be to rename the Swire's shipping company. Another possible reason with the move to Singapore could be that with all the vessels laid up there, there would be big savings in transport and accommodation costs etc. should the company go on a buying spree for cheap 2nd hand tonnage as happened in the 1960's !!!!!! I also wonder whether the individual and company taxation is more beneficial in Singapore.
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September 18, 2009 - 11:35 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://www.baybytes.com

  Davey Crockett, ever thinking of members' wellbeing and particularly that of the ladies, has made some startling discoveries about drinking which may be of relevance to all those attending the festivities in Warwick this weekend. Click Ye Pic.

Now you try it, Perry.
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September 18, 2009 - 04:15 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  The day has finally arrived when we can get together again and this time at Warwick. I will be there at the hotel around 1700hrs, driven, very kindly, by Fingers Falkner and accompanied by Gilbert Reid who just flew in from Canada a few hours before. I'm sure that there'll be quite a few who will be sorry to have miss it this year and judging from the entries below, there'll be no prizes for guessing what one of the main topics of conversation will be.

A sad day for us all but as usual, we'll make the best of it and after a few pints, it wont seem so bad.

Cheers
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September 17, 2009 - 12:23 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Here's the story Tim Metzger refers to, unashamedly lifted from Lloyd's List in flagrant breach of copyright, probably, but hey, we're advertising them for free:

"SOME 80 people will be made redundant towards the end of this year when China Navigation Co and its liner subsidiary Swire Shipping move their respective head offices in Hong Kong and Sydney to Singapore, writes Keith Wallis .

China Navigation said the shift to Singapore is in “response to changed market conditions and the need to consolidate overall management into a single location”.

The firm’s managing director Richard Kendall told Lloyd’s List that having two sets of operating and management offices in two separate locations was “not a desirable place to be”.

He said Singapore was a more “logical” location than Hong Kong because a large proportion of the firm’s ships made calls in Singapore and the company had a “sizeable” office and derived a large volume of its business in the lion state.

“There was also quite a sizeable cluster in Singapore on the liner and shipping side,” he added.

Mr Kendall conceded that moving China Navigation’s head office to Singapore would “be an end of an era” after China Navigation first opened its headquarters in Hong Kong in 1872 and largely pioneered the China trade.

He said the firm would maintain its links with the territory because 18 out of its 19 vessels would remain flagged in Hong Kong, while it would maintain its extensive agency network in China.

About 40 staff in Hong Kong would be directly impacted by the closure of the head office in the territory.

A further 60 would be affected in Sydney.":

Yikes. Changing times...

Mark
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September 16, 2009 - 10:29 AM
Tim

  The story is in todays Lloyd's List

CNCO moving to Singapore from Hong Kong and Sydney

You can see the report on line www.lloydslist.com.
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September 16, 2009 - 06:39 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Mark,
Your bamboo telegraph must be wearing out. M
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September 15, 2009 - 09:56 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://www.baybytes.com

  So which of you far-more-connected-folk-than-I haven't bothered to tell me that CNCo is leaving Hong Kong for Singapore? The office, that is, not a ship. Or is this just a foul rumour?

I think we should be told.

Mark

P.S. Dave Cooper sent us this. Clearly made by someone who has far too much time on their hands, but it's rather fun: put the lights on in Hong Kong (rather than putting them out, like CNCo...)
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September 15, 2009 - 04:35 PM
jamesesq

  John Rhys-Davies...look in the search engine
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September 15, 2009 - 09:48 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Does the name Rhys Davey mean anything to anyone? Could be a pseudonym.
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September 14, 2009 - 01:42 PM
Terry Connell

  Re-David Parkinson, missing yachtsman- look here for info:
www.globalradionews.com/public/story.asp?id=11529

and here
http://www.sail-world.com/USA/Skipper-overboard-and-novice-sailor-adrift-three-days/60714

there's an article about him and a map

What a sad end for a brave man!

RIP.
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September 14, 2009 - 11:49 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Gone awfully quiet again, the UK contingent obviously getting ready for the "do" at Warwick!
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September 03, 2009 - 12:18 AM
bob steer

  That sounds like an excellent "knees up" to me Mark and I would love to meet up with Burniet but due to circumstances beyond my control I will have to take a raincheck,perhaps the Virgin could fly you all out here and we can continue in downtown Bowral!!!
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September 02, 2009 - 03:07 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Mark,
Can't make your worthy do on 22 Sept., taking a breather after the SMA reunion before flying to Vancouver the following day. Good luck and enjoy
MDB
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September 02, 2009 - 05:09 AM
David Walker
walkeratsea@hotmail.co.uk

  Further to my last on the 29th. August.

From details via The Tongan police it would seem that the skipper David Parkinson was hooked on and that he had fallen overboard and was being dragged by his safety line. The only crew,a novice, attempted to haul him back aboard and the line broke. Being unable to handle the boat he sailed away. All very sad.

I believe the story is about to get into the NZ press. Would appreciate if anyone sees anything they could scan it and forward it me, not for any morbid reasons,but to put something together that may give the Family some sort of closure.

Regards
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September 01, 2009 - 09:21 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Scotland violent? Surely not. They walked around Hadrian's Wall, didn't they, rather than knock it down?

On the subject of Scots: if any of you have any money left from your Provident Fund you feel like giving away or, better still, if you fancy flying to New York for a knees-up, wifey Maryann and I are organizing a little party on board the (ex-USS) Intrepid in New York harbour on Sept 22. All in aid of the Colonel's Fund of the Scots Guards, which does a lot to put back together the lives of those servicemen who suffer life-changing injuries - and looks after bereaved families. Web site with details is here:

http://www.scotsguardscolonelsfunddinner.org/

Should be a lively night, as Balvenie have been kind enough to give us a bottle of 12-year-old for each table! And Calum Anderson's school pal George Robertson is the honouree. Richard Branson is flying the Pipes and Drums over, so we'll be making a noise.

Do come! Jim lad, keep saving those cans...

Mark
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September 01, 2009 - 02:55 AM
James Crockett

  Scotland tops list of world's most violent countries.....What?
This is old news!
I remember the time when a robber got mugged while he was burgling a house across the road from us.

As a wee lad I used to standby with a hot poker in my fist while my mother took her washing in, after it got dark!

One woman saw thieves in her garden stealing her vegetables one night, and when she raised the alarm, the robbers threw stones and broke her window.

Eviry rascal in Scotland thinks their either Wullie Wallace or Robert the Bruce...or baith on a Seturday nicht!

Most violent country?
You say that tae a Scot...an' ye'll get yer face bashed!

The URL cannot be typed/read......
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August 29, 2009 - 11:23 PM
Ben Aldiss
jamesaldiss@iprimus.com.au

  re John Lee's " Trampships; Tankers, and Polite conversation"
A self published non-fiction look back at the author's ten years sea service from , 1954 to 1964. Mr.Lee subsequently left the sea and became a successful school teacher.
The account is another useful, additions to the history of British sea faring, even if occasionally it walks close to the material that one former ship mate once described to me as ' more bull shit for future mess rooms.'The book is readily available through amazon.com.uk' in paper back form , at a sadly reduced price.
Well worth a read.
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August 29, 2009 - 09:46 PM
Darrell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  David, I am very sorry to learn of the fate of the person you sold your boat to and the situation. My contacts in Tonga are Commander Lupeti Vi, CEO of the Port of Tonga, Mosese Lavemai, Chief Financial Officer of Port of Tonga and Captain Siesaia Mafi, Port Master. Unfortunately, I do not have their contact details with me but I am sure the ones given by Mark will get you into contact with them. If you need any more help let me know and I will contact a friend in New Zealand who arranges much of the Marine Insurance for Tonga and is a good friend of the Prime Minister.
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August 29, 2009 - 04:05 PM
David Walker
walkeratsea@hotmail.co.uk

  Would appreciate some help. If anybody has any current knowledge of or is in contact/knows anyone in the Tongan Marine Dept would appreciate your advice.

Go to this article to learn of the situation.

The boat refered to is my ex boat and the guy drowned is the chap I sold it to. I am trying in any way I can to help the family. At least to get the boat down to NZ.

So would appreciate any usefull and current info on contacts in Tonga.

Regards David Walker.

Sorry to hear this, David. Don't know anyone there myself these days but it's a small place: what about going direct to the Hon. Paul Karalus, Marine Minister: Marine Dept. email is info@mca.gov.to, telephone is 676-22-555, fax is 676-24-267 and the address is Ministry of Marine and Ports, Fakafanua Centre, Vuna Road, Ma'ufanga, Tongatapu, Kingdom of Tonga. Not been a good month for Tonga, has it :( - MAJB
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August 28, 2009 - 10:28 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Anybody read this? A MN friend recommends this as being "hilarious and so, so true..."

"Trampships, Tankers and Polite Conversations"
Experiences of the Merchant Navy during the 1950's and 1960's
by John Lee

ISBN: 978-1-4343-0526-8 (e)
ISBN: 978-1-4343-0524-4 (sc)
ISBN: 978-1-4343-0525-1 (hc)

Mark
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August 26, 2009 - 10:11 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  It's all in his head, Alan. Remember this, from three years back?

I have a lively imagination!    Bottoms Up, surely?!

I've taken the liberty of adding another picture here, however, with instructions pertinent to any respectable gentleman.
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August 26, 2009 - 09:07 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Not a pretty sight, I would think Alan!
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August 26, 2009 - 07:01 AM
Alan Perry

  I'm sure in MAJB's archives he must have a depiction of Bob studying bottoms !
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August 26, 2009 - 02:15 AM
bob steer
bobjen@gigpond.net

  Stuart I have just this moment received the SMA mug and absolutely amazed at the speed of our/your postal services
A little disappointed when I turned it over to study it's bottom,as a seaman does,to find no Royal Doulton or even Royal Stuart mark and still looking for the Limited Edition Number!!!However I can asure you the coffee/tea tastes great and very proud of the mug which has pride of place amongst my souvenirs.
Many thanks for your efforts,
Bob
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August 25, 2009 - 11:28 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  At the risk of flooding the log with visual magnificence, we're pleased to post this delightful shot Jim Coneybeare dug up from a past curry. Gentlemen enjoying themselves...

Just fill the bloody glass, someone...
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August 25, 2009 - 06:46 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Remember the blood pressure, Bob!
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August 24, 2009 - 08:49 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

 
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August 24, 2009 - 07:38 PM
bob steer
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  BLOODY!!!!BLOODY!!!!BLOODY!!!!!
sheep shaggers
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August 24, 2009 - 06:57 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Yes Ancient One, the All Blacks were the better team. Obviously the "Proud All Black Supporter" is still in the wilds of Canada, away from a power source etc. or he would have made his entry here. At least I'm not going to have to buy the Kirin Brewery to quench his thirst !!
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August 24, 2009 - 04:28 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Just noticed the tiniest article in the paper that NZ pipped the Wallabies by one point in the last minute!
I shall make no comment about the cricket, except that it's hard to find an English-born player in the English team!
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August 22, 2009 - 12:34 AM
James Crockett

  Me and Steve were sitting down by the Star Ferry commiserating and telling each other how lucky we were, then Steve suddenly came up with a brilliant idea! Lets go to Wanchai and go round all the Bars and ask for our money back!
It'll never work, I said.
Remember when we paid thirty cents for half a'pint. Then later, up came the offer of one dollar for a bottle of San Mig and the next one was free?..... G&T @ $1.80.....?
We wouldn't make enough money, to get a ticket to the Warwick do, in September!
Right we agreed, and so we imagined that we were sitting in Jimmy's Kitchen eating a dozen rock oysters for ten dollars a plate.
Plus, beer can bashing is not a very encouraging and enterprising sport....as you can see ....I have only made the taxi fare!

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August 21, 2009 - 10:01 PM
Darrell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  Paddy San, it looks like you will be in UK at the SMA Reunion when I am in BC. Therefore, we won't be able to get together and throw the top of a Gordon's Gin Bottle out the porthole. However, you better leave an address where we can drop off our empties to assist in starting your savings for next years sojourn!! We are starting to batten down the hatches here in preparation for Hurricane "Bill's" arrival on Sunday. It will be a reminder of days in Hong Kong but at least I will not be out in the Typhoon Anchorage along with all the other vessels and praying, as some drag their anchors, that they will not foul mine!!?
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August 21, 2009 - 03:35 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Many thanks for the advice on Canada, except for the Bowral Lad. If we survive Canada we shall hit the beaches of Oz in Jan/Feb unles our glorious leader fouls things up yet again. Beware Bob, I might even make the reunion! (But we don't allow wives here, so I won't tell her).
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August 19, 2009 - 11:53 PM
Scrooge McDuck.
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  I am collecting beer cans/bottles but they are MTs. The Liquor stores here give back the 10 cents deposit for every MT returned. All proceeds going for my air ticket to the Sept. S.M.A. meeting. Pity they don't do the same in the UK. Last time there I saw what must have been a million bucks worth lying along the railway banking!! Also, to the fellow members,explorers,missionaries etc. who are all heading out to BC next month. The S.M.A. meeting may be way out West but that would be Warwick not Vancouver!!
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August 18, 2009 - 04:06 PM
Darrell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  Oh Ancient One I have just returned from camping on Prince Edward Island. No solar powered computer here. Very fine weather here 32deg so missing decent NZ Cold Beer, Canterbury Draught or Speights. However, the Alexander Keith's is drinkable when all else fails. What with the Aussie and Kiwi Firefighters, you and I all desending on British Columbia over the next month I hope Paddy San has not seen a way of supplementing his pension by buying up all the local brew to sell at some exhorbitant price!!
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August 17, 2009 - 10:45 PM
bob steer
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  Most Ancient of the Ancients,
I thought you had gone walkabout in the Canadian bush,looking for a Merchant Navy Hotel or somewhere equally nice to take The L.S.One.Without any gin or decent tonic or in fact any thing to sustain you in the cold long nights of the Tundra and here you are on the computor,solar powered no doubt,whats going on,I may ask?
Stuart if you read this could you please depatch a mug to me,I am sending a cheque today and surely you can trust a boy from Bowral??
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August 17, 2009 - 05:40 AM
Jockmacrock

  I think it happened when Stu started talking about the SMA mugs! Now we are all wondering who he means!
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August 17, 2009 - 03:50 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Quiet around here! Has everyone left town?
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August 11, 2009 - 08:15 PM
James M Crockett
crockettesq@gmail.com

  I am happy to tell you Stu has done wonders by getting a load of mugs made in the UK....they look better than the mugs I had found, but I will get the HK mug made and if anyone in the far east likes one I will get it to them. Plus the smashing new SMA crest designed by Stu's son Matthew is just fantastic! And when you get a letter from Stu you will be much impressed by his new letter-head stationery! He even has his brilliant mug-shot on the side! (Of the pad)
Everything looks new....even Stu's brilliant smile!
By the way, I have requested Stu to video tape the next big meeting in the UK so we can all eventually see the raising of the new SMA mugs in cheers around the world!
You see? First we got the mugs rolling and next we will be making videos of all the international SMA meetings! Some things we won't have to look for, and will be comic singers & actors to do a turn!
CNCo. has always had plenty of them!
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August 11, 2009 - 04:17 AM
Alan Perry

  Very sorry MAJB - chastisement accepted, just thought the site was getting a tad boring and needed a shake-up !

Stu - Yes I will buy one (or two) mugs off your truckload, and yes, I will have a brace or more cold bevvies in the workshop fridge when you come visiting.
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August 11, 2009 - 03:22 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  At this point in time, I think I better clarify the situation regarding the "Ugly Mug" shown on the reverse of the SMA mugs featured on this web site.

I am pleased to advise members that the "Ugly Mug" comes straight from the very fertile mind of our hard working web brat and the real SMA mugs do not have that frightening face on them.

There is no way that we would want to induce fear amongst our membership as they sip their morning cuppa.

You may rest assured that the mugs have been designed using the best possible taste, although it has been hard to get the colours 100% correct, as has already been noted by our Ancient Mariner.

Don't worry, one day I will be banging on the door of our Father Christmas look alike with a lorry load of them and I hope he has a fridge full of ale at the ready.
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August 10, 2009 - 11:23 AM
Alan Perry

  The question that must be asked is; who is the personna depicted on the reverse of the mug as the "SMA Mug" - is it Stuart or is it MAJB ?

Is it really that long since we've met, Perry, or has your last brain cell finally petered out? Heck, if I had a face like that, I'd have to become an engineer or something. And you wouldn't want that.

AM: I am sure that "The Ugly Mug" will have noted your comment about the Taikoo blue, and will respond accordingly. But don't be too critical, otherwise he might invoice you for a dozen - MAJB
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August 10, 2009 - 09:10 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  MAB,
Don't like the blue your computer reproduces. If anyone had produced a Taikoo flag of that hue in the old days it would have been a matter for a one-way ticket home! We even had a rocket from London when the flag was first put on funnels, it was pointed out to our Lords & Masters that the accepted blue band would not show up on a black funnel unless lightened slightly. I thought the final agreement was somewhat grumpy! It was alot easier to get rid of the white band around the hull!
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August 10, 2009 - 01:10 AM
Mark Beaumont
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  Get yer ugly mug over here, mate!
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August 06, 2009 - 03:09 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Gilbert,
Heard about the fires, they are/were the other side of the lake from my daughter. She lost her house there about 5/6 years ago, quite remarkable, nothing left but the concrete base, but the conifer border around the plot seemed to be untouched! I guess the timber house just imploded/exploded in the heat?
I shall top up with decent bitter before I go!
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August 05, 2009 - 02:05 PM
jockmacrock
116.48.22.21

  Look at this for a golf shot! Golf Cart
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August 05, 2009 - 01:32 AM
Gilbert Reid
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  AM - "Kokanee", It's the beer out here, or so their advert says. I've been using it to "wet my whistle" for years and so far, can still see straight!! Though there could be a bit of a shortage next month. BC has just flown in quite a few Aussie and NZ firemen to help fight the forest fires burning throughout the Rockies and Interior.
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August 04, 2009 - 03:12 AM
jockmacrock

  I found this piece of nostalgia that will give everybody a buzzzz
Planes over Hong Kong Landing Kai Tak Airport 1998 香港 啟德機場
Sound @ Full Volume for the start......and feel the old excitement!
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August 03, 2009 - 11:05 PM
James Crockett

  AM.....go here immediately http://www.katkam.ca/
for an instant weather report from Vancouver on video!
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August 03, 2009 - 11:57 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I am going to Canada next month but no need for anyone to leave town! In Vancouver for just four days then disappearing to the Okanagan Valley for two weeks to see my daughter. Do they have any decent beer in BC? Last time I was there was when Erawan had a collision while under pilotage and spread oil on the best beaches of Vancouver! Perhaps CG can remember how many writs were stuck on the wheelhouse windows, modern version of nailing to the mast I guess.
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August 02, 2009 - 08:06 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  there is a very good website-

tyneareasc.org.uk

it has many Merchant Navy links which should be of interest to members.I was amazed at one link which gives the position of any ship in seconds.Try it.
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July 31, 2009 - 05:55 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Warwick, with all your past experience, this is the "golden" opportunity you've been waiting for. The R.S.A. awaits you !!!!
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July 30, 2009 - 11:31 PM
Warwick Gibson
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  Alister,

Heard on the new this morning that Robbie Deans had to cross the ditch, his old man is not in good health. He went east and the Wallabies went west to the RSA this morning. The Springboks did them last week, it is our turn next week.
Hope his Dad is OK and he can rejoin the men in gold.
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July 29, 2009 - 03:24 AM
Stu
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  I always thought that there were at least fifty vessels at anchor outside Singapore at any time. After all, Singapore is a crossroads for shipping.
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July 28, 2009 - 09:46 PM
Gilbert Reid
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  In the mid seventies I was on a seismic vessel laid up for a couple of months off Singapore. Even then we were surrounded by quite a few other vessels. It could be there just seems more as the "parking lot" must surely be getting smaller. e.g The Raffles Hotel was built by the beach. It's now over a mile inland!!
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July 27, 2009 - 04:43 AM
Davey Crockett

  All hands,
Check Idle Ships off Singapore in Google, specifically gCaptain's blog. Lots of good pictures of the seven hundred odd ships parked offshore. That shows the state of world trade. Looks a bit scary.

Yachts are going cheaply, too, if one is in the market to snatch up a bargain
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July 26, 2009 - 07:22 AM
Darrell Daish
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  Like many others I had a desire to learn a little about what went on down in that big black hole called an engine room. George Mawson, God rest his soul, used to take me down and taught me how to take cards. However, I had no desire to become a Chief Engineer and I don't think George had any desire to take Command. We all have our own paths and goals in life and should not covert someone else's. If Mr Allwyn desires to be in Command then perhaps he should have chosen a different course on the Chart of Life!!?!
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July 25, 2009 - 03:54 PM
Davey Crockett

  Jim Snape says...... Like Stu my nose was firmly in the engine room ......However.....I recall some good natured discussion of how it could be a difficult situation on a ship if he had served as Master or C/E.....or Both??
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July 25, 2009 - 06:08 AM
Jim Snape
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  Like Stu my nose was firmly in the engine room with no desire to enter other fields,I recollect an article in the MNAOA Journal about a man who was qualified to serve as Master and also as Chief Engineer of a merchant ship.this would be in the early sixties.I think he was head of Doxford Shipyard at Sunderland and could have gained exemptions from BOT exams from service and qualifications gained as an Officer in the Royal Navy.I recall some good natured discussion of how it could be a difficult situation on a ship if he had served as Master or C/E.
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July 25, 2009 - 04:45 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Some years ago I was "asked",i.e. instructed, to escort an ACL director and wife on an aerial tour of the then proposed container facility at Kwai Chung. I was to go to the aero club at KaiTak and meet a CPA Capt. by the name of ,wait for it, Davy Crockett!! I was met by another CPA chap who explained that Davy was having his routine medical and he would be taking us up instead. Hovering above Kwai Chung in a Cessna was not my idea of fun, so to put my mind at ease I asked the pilot how long he had been a Capt with CPA, "I'm not a pilot, I'm a flight engineer with a PPL"!!!! We became neighbours at Shatin and he in due course became a 707 Capt. and, I believe, retired as a training Capt on 747's. There's hope for you yet, Stu!!
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July 24, 2009 - 01:19 AM
Davey Crockett

  Another hilarious hot-air balloon story! Thanks for my first laugh of the day!

Anon is definitely an engineer and the Superintendent is definitely not a navigator!
What are these two 'ding~bats' doing off the coast of Nova Scotia in the Atlantic Ocean.....40N 60W ????
Is this another Kirin beer leg pull?
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July 24, 2009 - 12:24 AM
Wallaby Supporter

  Warwick, I suppose you have heard the recent news, Darrell (Proud All Black Supporter) has been heaving so hard on the "TOW ROPE" in order that the All Blacks travelling time will be reduced when they cross the ditch, and believe it or not, part of N.Z. has actually moved 30 cm closer to Australia in the recent earhquake. Perhaps the Kiwis are frightened of sinking, when do we cut the tow rope ?
Anyway Warwick, you retired player, coach and referee, when are you going to assist Robbie Deans ?
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July 23, 2009 - 10:54 PM
Anon Bangkok

  Engineers or navigators

A man in a hot air balloon, realizing he was lost, reduced altitude
and spotted a man below. He descended further and shouted to the man
"Excuse me, can you help me? I promised a friend I would meet him an
hour ago, but I don't know where I am"

The man below replied, "You're in a hot air balloon, hovering
approximately 30 feet above the ground. You're between 40 and 41
degrees north latitude and between 59 and 60 degrees west longitude."


"You must be an engineer," said the balloonist.

"Actually I am," replied the man, "How did you know?"

"Well," answered the balloonist, "everything you have told me is
technically correct but I've no idea what to make of your information
and the fact is I'm still lost. Frankly, you've not been much help at
all. If anything, you've delayed my trip."

The man below responded, "You must be a Superintendent who used to be a navigator”
"I am," replied the balloonist, "but how did you know?"

"Well," said the man, "you don't know where you are or where you're
going. You have risen to where you are due to a large quantity of hot
air. You made a promise, which you've no idea how to keep, and you
expect people beneath you to solve your problems. The fact is you are
in exactly the same position you were in before we met, but now,
somehow, it's my f***ing fault..."
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July 23, 2009 - 09:19 AM
stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Nurses parties are a long gone luxury Darrell but I have to say that most Masters I sailed with enjoyed the experience because I never once had any delusions of grandeur and was very happy keeping my nose firmly in the engineroom.
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July 23, 2009 - 09:03 AM
Darrell Daish
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  I must say that I am all in favour of Mr Allwyns suggestion that Chief Engineers take over responsibility for the running of a ship. This will relieve Masters and Mates of all the anxiety for when those officious persons from Coastguard/Port Safety/Marine Department/etc/descend on a vessel to check up and breathalize personnel. The Master can then get on with the important things in life such as arranging the Sunday BBQ/nurses for the nights party/ensuring the Martinis are made and cooling in the refrigerator and all the other small things that made going to sea worthwhile!!?! Life is too short to be bothered with all the twadel that these hairbrained degree graduates think up to discuss at time wasting forums. Another round of An Migs boy and phone a takasee to go to Wanchai. I pay bar bill later!!
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July 22, 2009 - 12:13 AM
Warwick
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  MAJB: Thanks for finding the Inigo Winery site. You can purchase the Merloy & Cab/Sav @ Jim's liquour store @ Crow's Nest, Sydney for anyone who is interested. The cost is $A17.95 p/b. At the cellar door it is from $A19-29 p/b.
As I am a volenteer at the Australian Maritime Museum we obtain great discounts on James Squire beer/wine, as they are one of the sponsor's.
Alister, I will go to the AB's v Wallabies @ ANZ Stadium on August 22, surely we can beat them on our home turf. Didn't Berrick Barnes 'bomb' that try??? Trust you Queenslander's, although I was born in Townsville.
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July 21, 2009 - 03:40 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Marsupial Man has sent us this delightful picture to brighten our day. Captioned "Not Grasping The Concept", our lady readers will no doubt relish the fact that the driver in question was a man, not a woman :)

Well, at least I didn't get the outboard wet..
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July 21, 2009 - 12:33 PM
Davey Crockett

  Go here and scroll down for interesting comments in the original forum:

Modern Management or the Command System?

My opinion is that, sadly the Chief as Skipper....couldn't work!
I mean, who ever heard of the Chief going down with the Ship..
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July 21, 2009 - 06:47 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Mark,
If you could arrange to translate all that gobbledegook into plain English then one might be able to comment. Are you sure this wasn't written by a politician?
Incidentally the Royal Navy trained their first Engineer Officers for command some years ago, in 1951 the brother of a fellow apprentice was lost on a submarine casualty while undergoing a command course. But then look what has happened to the R.N. , more admirals than ships!! Swire Shipping seems to have moved partly towards this, well everybody now seems to wear a boiler suit, ( I recall seeing an "eminent person" wearing one back in 1956!).
I would be the last person to get into an "oil and water" situation, nobody benefits, someone has to be in charge to take the can when something goes wrong.
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July 21, 2009 - 06:36 AM
Jim Snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  I read Mr,Allwyn's thesis and was frightened,if that is what it is like at sea now I am glad I left twenty years ago.I am sure most members are more interested in 'tipple' or past history involving the sublime to the gorblime.cheers Jim.
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July 21, 2009 - 03:12 AM
Bev K.
ddikibraw@westnet.com.au

  I know someone who would agree with Davey C's forum article to the letter.
(Only joking!)
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July 20, 2009 - 06:27 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Darrell, yes we were well and truly defeated by your beloved All Blacks, however there are still three games to go. Yes that is now three cartons, when are you coming to collect - remember beer doesn't keep in the "frig"
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July 20, 2009 - 06:17 PM
Geoff Garrett

  Gawd Preserve Me!
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July 20, 2009 - 02:24 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Here's one that Davey C. has forwarded from a marine forum; which may rattle a few cages, perhaps! Oil and water :)

Modern Management or the Command System?

Hi folks. Allwyn from Australia here. I would like to push in a query here to professional mariners. This is focussing on modern ship management procedures on board today. I have been a Marine Engineer and now work on fleet safety and quality management.

In my dealings with the fleet, I see complicated anti pollution regulations require compliance and understanding mostly from the Chief Engineer. Most if not all Captains do not understand the equipment involved or what goes into making and keeping the ship IOPP or IAPP compliant. At the management level I hear a lot of frustration and complaints about Captains not being able to understand and comprehend basics and thus inadvertantly or advertantly marginalizing support that the Chiefs need. For that reason we implemented a direct hotline for the Chief Engineer to the Office without the need to go through the Captain which also was for many a frustrating experience again.

Today everything on board a Merchant ship is an engineering operation. It is impossible and beyond the scope for Ship Captains knowledge or training to know how ships move, how power is created, how water is generated, how fuel is centrifuged, how hydraulic systems work, how safety, backup and emergency buses are linked as systems, how sewage is processed and made harmless before discharge or what goes into the complexities of discharging cargoes using onboard gear etc..

Anything going wrong in these, or literally one can say on the ship is related to some Engineering aspect. Ship Captains do not have the abiliy, skill sets for analytical and higly specialized troubleshooting work that endanger vessels all the time, let alone comprehend the redundancy factor for equipment or spares on board that is absolutely essential for the safe running of the vessel.

No management holds the Captain responsible for such. They hold the Chief Engineer responsible and it becomes his responsibility to solve that problem to ensure the safety of the crew and the Master included. We did an internal study on critical operations requiring a high skill set over a large period of time, spanning more than a year. Over 95% cases involved the skills of the Chief Engineer and his team in either bringing back operations to safe mode, preventing a pollution incident, preventing commercial damage due to delays and in some instances prevention of possible grevious injury.

Moreover we faced a situation where many ship Captains showed high handedness without being able to factor in and able to comprehend the criticality under which the Chief Engineer was working. Some instances including a few Chiefs who resigned and left this company were a direct result of the Captains inability to comprehend a Marine Engineers job.

Times have changed and we are seriously even considering putting up a Cargo Engineer to take care of deck machinery, loading discharge operations, ballast water management, deballast and ballast functions and managing the loadicator towards that end. This would free up the mate also for purely navigational responsibilities.

A Captains skillset requirement today is much lesser than what was say even 15 years ago wih the advent of accurate Global positioning and easy to use Radar and navigational equipment and extremely accurate weather analysis.

How would people here feel if i raised the issue of complete executive management responsibility being put on a Chief Engineer instead of the Captain on board, because of his better understanding of the ship and it's equipment?

Thanks, and this is not to raise Deck-Engine issues, but serious replies to why this is possible or why it is not. Would be glad to hear views of people on this forum, whether the mindset to share top operational executive management on board is possible yet or not? Or shall we have to continue with the 'Command' based system on board for the foreseeable future?
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July 20, 2009 - 07:24 AM
Jim Snape
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  Hello Darrell,I am fairly sure it was Kweichow in NZ,we were on Nanchang,I think Roy Shipp was Captain and George Mawson Chief,Kweichow had some trouble with the propeller which must have struck a submerged log and bent over the tip of one blade causing vibration and which had to be gas axed off.I remember Ted Jeggo wearing a loin cloth and possibly a fur hat coming screaming into the room waving the tip of the propeller,I think there was a bit of a plot to 'acquire'the tip and take it to Nanchang as a trophy but George put it into a safe place as it would have to be welded back on and it would have been embarrasing if he could not produce it.Yes your cold remedy is the same as mine.Jim
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July 19, 2009 - 09:33 PM
Darrell Daish
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  Sorry Alistair and Warwick but as usual the Green and Gold was Blacked out again. Is that 3 cases of XXXX that you now have in the frige for me Alistair!!! Yes Jim I do remember PD1's (Ted Jeggo) little idiosyncrasies like pouring good beer down peoples necks, including mine, and clipping one around the ears. If my memory serves me right it was when Ted and I were on the Kweichow that you came over to partake of some hospitality. I would recommend 4 oz of Famous Grouse, 2 teaspoons of honey and hot water over Tamiflu any time for colds, swine flu or anything that ails you.
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July 17, 2009 - 11:53 PM
Warwick
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  I am going to partake of some Inigo wine tomorrow.
Tony, my eldest son is coming with the family for lunch. Has advised he has some in hand. Thanks Mark for letting me know Tooheys also make Kirin, will try and source some.
Wallaby supporter, go the men in green & gold tonight against the ABs in AKL.

Warwick, my offbeat sense of humour may have gone past you on this occasion! I can't imagine that Tooheys have found it necessary to manufacture Kirin under licence as yet; although I would wager there's a bottle or two available in Queensland, actually, given that the Japanese own half the place - MAJB
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July 17, 2009 - 02:51 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Click here for an interactive guide to buying Kirin Beer in Australia, courtesy of the SMA Research Department. Requires Flash Player to be installed on your computer, which you probably have.

Mark
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July 17, 2009 - 03:34 AM
Jim Snape
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  Darryl-the prices are for 700ml bottles,if you apply a correction factor prices are about the same as you quote for NZ and Nova Scotia,they do have some 1 litre bottles which are slightly cheaper on a volume basis.I dont drink spirits now apart from a nip of Famous Grouse when I have a cold.Prices were lower for me last year when the pound was worth about 200yen,you would think prices would come down with the stronger yen but they dont,just have to grin and bear it and hope we win the big lottery.

Talking about Kirin,a few years back we visited a Kirin Brewery when on a village group tour,the brewery was set out to accomodate group tours with glassed in overhead walkways and observation platforms allowing you see all the plant,a marvel of stainless steel and conveyor lines.The tour starts with a short video of the brewing process,then a guided tour of the plant and then to a refreshment hall where large glasses of beer or softies were served,problem was the hall was freezing cold with the aircon and the beer was the same,you needed a cast iron stomach to drink it,I managed two before time was up and we had to board the bus.

Changing the subject,I have a very faint recollection of having a few drinks on some ship and Ted Jeggo was up to his usual tricks pouring beer down the back of you neck,he had a repertoire of such tricks,can you recall? Cheers Jim.
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July 16, 2009 - 10:29 PM
Warwick
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  Yes, Darrell I have heard of that group of islands north of the SHB - I recall they are Japan. When I chartered the CP we visted there twice in 1976 March/April & October. MAJB was the Director of Kirin & G & T's.
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July 16, 2009 - 08:49 PM
Darrell Daish
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  Jim the prices you are quoting seem quite cheap. However, you do not say the size of the bottle? In New Zealand we used to be able to buy scotch in 1.125 litre bottles and Gordons Gin in 4 litres at quite reasonable prices. However, now they are sold in 1 litres for about the same price. 1 Litre of Famous Grouse is about NZ$39 or £15.60 and Gordons about NZ$34 or £13.60. Here in Nova Scotia a 1.14 Litre of Grants Family Reserve is C$37.99 or £21.10 and Famous Grouse a little more expensive. Therefore make the most of your prices for a wee dram. Whatever the price it is expensive for us poor pensioners and nowhere near what we used to enjoy for a "misuarwe" (excuse the spelling) in The Motomachi. From my failing navigational memories Warwick there is a group of islands north of SHB called Japan where you can get Kirin and Asahi. Hope this helps!!?!
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July 16, 2009 - 03:16 PM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  If you want to get Kirin beer in Australia, check out this web site.

www.yourbars.com.au/beer_type/kirin/
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July 16, 2009 - 12:46 AM
Warwick Gibson
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  If you live in Oz you can buy your 'bevies' not plonk, please gentlemen from David Jones or Cellar Masters ( both the same) for $5 dollars a bottle of wine. I have recently purchased 12 mixed dozen & a carton of 'Corwnies' for $109 plus $7.95 freight to SYD. With crown larger @ $50 a carton that makes the wine $5.50 p/b. Can anyone let me know where you can buy Kirin or Asahi beer north of SHB???
Cheers, Warwick
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July 15, 2009 - 07:48 AM
Jim Snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  Recent entries about 'tipple' [ it sounds more dignified then plonk or booze ] are most interesting,I shall
look out for Inigo.I have not been back to UK for eight years and have no idea of prices off the supermarket shelf,here a bottle of ordinary Scotch is about 10 pounds,Gordons 8,a decent dry red 3 to 6,and the large Kirin 2 pounds. I was looking at a can of Guiness at 300 yen thinking'thats expensive' but on second thoughts it is the same price as what it was in UK some fifty five years ago,taking inflation into account.

I have to admit that my mindset is UK in the 1950s.Cheers Jim.
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July 15, 2009 - 06:27 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  When I looked up Inigo wine on Google it told me it was a Queensland winery. Very confusing to the elderly! Perhaps one could change its name to Outicome? Haven't yet seen this brew in UK. I must say the colonies have come a long way with wine since the days of fourpenny dark plonk from Penfolds in 1950's! Some UK wine is quite good but if I buy something grown/bottled in Kent or Sussex it costs about twice as much as equivalent quality from Oz, S.Africa or Chile. The NZ stuff is quite pricy here also. Sparkling white from grapes grown at Ditchling in W.Sussex beat champagne in last year wine tasting. I'm getting up courage to try a bottle of Pinot Noir my daughter sent me from the Okanagan Valley in BC.
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July 14, 2009 - 12:08 AM
Warwick Gibson
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  Thanks MAJB - a typo, I don't believe the Jesuist's arrived before the First Fleet, unless they came with James Cook???
You can but INIGO @ Crows Nest Cellars for you Sydney siders.
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July 13, 2009 - 02:42 PM
Terry Connell

  So, I took up the challenge to find "Ingo" wines in Australia. As far as I can discover there's no such wine label.
Also, the Jesuits didn't come to South Australia until 1848. A century difference. A finger slip on the keyboard perhaps?
See this link.
www.southaustralia.com/ClareValleyWineriesCellarDoors.aspx

Ben the first fleet arrived at Botany Bay on 26 January 1788, surely!
Please don't describe yourself as a "plonker". You will shatter all my illusions of you being a gentleman!
ATB

I think Warwick means Inigo, Terry. You can order it here, from Sevenhill Cellars - MAJB
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July 12, 2009 - 10:40 PM
Ben Aldiss
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  Australian wineries and vinyards: with respect to the 'SJs' , surely the first vine planting was contemporaneous with the first fleet in 1788 almost in the middle of what is now modern Sydney? As a dedicated Oz 'plonk' fancier I'm ready to be corrected.
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July 12, 2009 - 09:13 PM
Warwick Gibson
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  Gentlemen, 0913

I am now a volunteer guide @ the (ANMM) Australian National Maritime Museum @ Darling Harbour Sydney. Speaking of 'grog' and dry Red. See if you can find Ingo wine. It is the oldest wine establishment in OZ founded by the Jesuits in 1764 in South Australia. They have a very good Merlo & Cab/Sab.

I agree Kirin is a good beer but hard to come by here in Sydney (Northern Beaches)
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July 12, 2009 - 03:18 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  So that is what keeps you looking so good, Ben, embalming fluid!
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July 11, 2009 - 08:40 PM
Ben Aldiss
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  Kirin beer and now Darrell in Nova Scotia. The lasttime I was in the Maritimes(Nova Scotia) was winter sixty years ago loading pit props in a tiny port called Sheet Harbour. There was strict prohibition .Unawares i accepted a snort from a local at a dance in the school room.The drink was taken outside in the dark.I damn nearly choked.Under the light the stuff turned out to be embalming fluid. Obviously the maritimes have improved a bit since then.
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July 11, 2009 - 09:31 AM
Mark Beaumont
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  Happy memories for me, at least. I'd buy Kirin just for the label, but rate it No.1 of the Japanese beers, for sure... there's a sushi bar right next to where I have my regular check-ups in NY and they get a large bottle out of the cooler when they see me coming :)

Bieru nippon, kudasai!
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July 11, 2009 - 07:50 AM
Jim Snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  Some useless information on the Japanese domestic beer market,Kirin has taken top place for shipments of beer and beerlike alcoholic drinks in the last six months with 37.5%, total of all types shipped was 2,750,000 kilolitres, I think eveyone will agree that that is a lot of beer.

Thank you Bob for complimenting me on my taste,when I started to quaff dry red I could only find California Red in 3 litre flagons and Eauropean and South African in standaerd bottles,all only passable. Then I was taken to a large supermarket with a huge variety of imported food and drink and lo and behold were large stocks of several well known Aussie wines in 2 and 3 litre packs all great stuff, I sometimes try French, German,and Spanish but always regret buying as I have to drink it{ you cant throw away booze can you? } Cheers Jim
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July 10, 2009 - 09:19 AM
Darrell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  Hi Bob, I take it that when you say there is good beer and then there is Kiwi you mean that Kiwi beer is way out in front!!?! Now that I am in Nova Scotia, Canada (for those who did not make it to this part of the world) I am having to get used to Alexander Keiths. Even though it is branded as India Pale Ale it is drinkable especially after a couple of hours driving a ride on lawn mower in 23 deg. This weekend is the Pictou Lobster Carnival so looking forward to a good feed. Went to a restuarant the other day and Scotch Whiskey was C$7 a nip but Johnnie Walker Black Label only C$6. Shows that they have taste here as JWBL must only be beaten for bottom place by Johnnie Walker Red Label??
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July 10, 2009 - 01:46 AM
Gilbert Reid.
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  When last in Japan back in 1962 most thing seem to be graded by numbers like Kirin was "numba wun",Asahi#2 Sapporo#3 and as I recall that was about right. On board, the drink of choice was Gordons Gin yet Butterfield & Swire were the HK agents for Beefeaters. So much for company loyalty!! Myself, I'm now into the Capt.Morgan. I've been told that Rum is bad for my cholestoral but drawing from my chemical experience doing boiler water tests on the "Fengning" I'm hoping to neutralize the sugar content by mixing it with Diet Coke.
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July 09, 2009 - 06:13 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  How times have changed, on going ashore in days past we always wore a suit with collar and tie. Here in Central Queensland the last few times I wore a suit in the last 20 odd years would be as a guest at weddings etc. Must admit the casual dress is much less formal and more easy going. I trust you are correct Jim and that Kirin don't muck about with the established brews, if they do I'l just have to stick to my "Thomson Special" - now there is drop that is really great !
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July 09, 2009 - 05:57 PM
bob steer

  You always was a man of good taste Jim!!!There was always good beer and then there was Kiwi beer.
I have been trying to think of the bar in Manilla which had happy hour at nine in the morning,worth looking into "Most Ancient of The Ancients"with a little effort I am sure you can drink happily 24 hours a day around the world somewhere
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July 09, 2009 - 11:37 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Didn't we all dress well for a night ashore in those days?
Jim, time marches on, as you say, and consumption goes down! Just about off to the local hostelry where they have "Happy Hour" from 1700 to 2000, (a long hour!). Can only manage three pints of bitter even at 40p per pint reduction! Cheers
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July 09, 2009 - 09:28 AM
Jim Snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  'Twas on the Good Ship Venus...
Jim Milne-C/E, Alistair Fairclough-3/M, Jim Snape-2/E,Charlie Nisbet-Mate, M.S.Chengtu,having a few in the Scandinavia Bar Osaka Port,1963.

To those who worry that Kirin might change the taste of their favourite brews,I am sure Kirin will be quite happy to leave well alone and rake in the profits. Those who have not been to Japan in recent years would be surprised at the number of different brews on the market,Japanese and imported. A few years back Suntory produced a beer taste drink about 40% cheaper than beer by using other materials than barley,thus avoiding the tax,and all the other brewers joined in,some brews taste much the same as beer,others not so good but the alcohol percentages are the same 5 to 7% so they are very popular though they dont serve them in the bars.

Farther Time has forced me to reduce my consumption,I just have a few glasses of Aussie dry red in the evening,it is all I can manage.

Cheers-Jim Snape
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July 06, 2009 - 11:09 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Really Stu, there's no such thing as bad beer. There is only "Good Beer' and "Better Beer" especially when one is hot and thirsty - mind you I have tasted some that made me wonder how it ever managed to qualify as beer. When waking up the following morning I geuss we often blamed the brew - never the quantity consumed !!!!
Below is a photo of Ted Jeggo, Rolley Wakeham and myself enjoying a meal with saki in Japan about 1964.

And then he did a drum solo like this... and this... he'll go far, that Ringo bloke
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July 06, 2009 - 03:42 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  Don't knock Kirin Alsitair, from memory, it's what I call a sneaky little drop that creeps up on you and brings back fond memories of the bars in Kobe, sitting there sipping on a cold Kirin, poured by a delightful Japanese lady or ladies, listening to local music that sounded better, the more Kirins we drank and later going for a pee in a foul smelling toilet that was just a hole in the ground. Ahhh the pleasures of life......we all remember that don't we?
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July 05, 2009 - 09:28 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Proud All Black Supporter, Graham Henry
softened up Les Blues with his men in black enabling Robbie Deans with his men in the green and gold to triumph. No doubt you will be watching the game in a fortnight in Melbourne against Les Blues. How about a carton of XXXX on the result. Now that the Japanese Kirin brewery has taken over Lion Nathan, Bob will hope they don't change his beloved "Tooheys" as I hope they don't change my XXXX, and you would lose your N.Z. variety. It would be an absolute disaster if we had to change to to the Kirin variety - we might die of thirst !!!!!!!!!
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July 04, 2009 - 01:33 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  Most females have more common sense than to work in a hot, oily, smelly, noisy place like a ship's engine room but I guess there must have been a few foolish ones out there over the years.

Oh......and I have to tell you Ben, I often dream of being chased but only by one of those hot, oily, smelly, noisy female angineers.

I'll see what I can do with the August Pinup Calendar Girl, Stu :) - MAJB
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July 04, 2009 - 12:05 AM
Colin Taylor
murata@ihug.conz

  Re female sea going engineers. In 2001
we had a nice young lady 4th engineer on P&O Nedlloyd Tauranga. (Chitral) She was also x CNCo cadet. If my mind serves me correctly, she was very competent at her job and did not mind getting covered in the old proverbial.

Can't remember her name at the moment,
I am sure somebody out there will remember it
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July 03, 2009 - 11:03 PM
Ben Aldiss
jamesaldiss@iprimus.com.au

  Maurice - thanks for reading my books. There are three more titles your family could give you and , with luck, another on the market by Christmas. Lewdness , incidentally, is in the eye of the beholder, as the poet said ' How chased are they that are unchaste'- or was it vice versa? 'How chaste are they that are unchased.'


Jim - re female engineers, the well known Ms. Drummond of the Blue Funnel is the only one I have ever heard of, certainly none in our time in CNCo.Cheers
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July 03, 2009 - 04:26 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I eat humble pie, Mary. But did Mark have to show me at a Lodge meeting? Just think, if Fay had lived we might have had a husband & wife membership!
Ben, I think you improve with age. Have now read both your books we had for Christmas, I rather think the Canadian lady who accused you of being lewd etc. was getting close to the mark!! They make "Lady Chatterly"seem rather tame.
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July 02, 2009 - 11:56 PM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  Seriously,has there been any female engineers in CNCo or SPO in the last 20 years? I think women have the ability to do th job but would be deterred by the frequently difficult conditions in most engine rooms.Or have conditions improved tremendously over the years?

Brings to mind the 1973 Erradale which had an air conditioned control room,an RND Sulzer and a well planned layout in the engine room.The Mate Andy King who could never resist having a dig at the 2/E Brian Butler said that a women could easily do his job,Brian was not amused.
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July 02, 2009 - 10:46 PM
Warwick Gibson
wmgibson@bigpond.com

  Gentlemen & Wallaby supporter,

Went to the Rughy game last Saturday @ ANZ Staduim, it was certainly 'Frogs on toast' Matt Giteau 22 France 6, great seats, just between the 22m line & northern goalpost with a big screen to my left shoulder. I am sure Aussie Robbie has the Wallabies on track to win all tests inluding the Tri - Nations. We will 'do' the AB's but the RSA will be more difficult @ altitude. A poor crould 43.500. The AB's on August 22 will be larger, as the # of Kiwis living in OZ almost out numbers the total population across the 'ditch'
Will also attend the AB's game.
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July 02, 2009 - 06:45 PM
Ben Aldiss
jamesaldiss@iprimus.com.au

  Captains; Queens;Masters; Kings et al:how unnecessarily confusing all this title /gender stuff is. The ancient organization of which I am privileged to have been a 'younger brother'for many years has - thank goodness- recently welcomed females to its fraternity- as 'brothers '.I am now waiting for males to be admitted to distinguished sororities as 'honorary sisters'.In this context I recall from my lawyer days the muddlement of the young solicitor who is alleged to have mistaken arson for incest and set fire to his sister.Cheers.
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July 02, 2009 - 06:18 PM
Mary McConnell
memcconnell58@yahoo.co.uk

  Hello All, how could he possibly have missed my presence on the site!!?

here I am bright eyed n bushy tailed , alive and kicking in Glasgow. I 'm not here often, but if perused carefully I can be seen in previous years with the Vital Spark and possibly Zip sliding across the Clyde, yee haaa
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July 02, 2009 - 10:42 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://baybytes.com

  Give him another kick, Squire Perry.
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July 02, 2009 - 10:03 AM
Alan Perry

  Come on Mary, give Ancient Mariner boots and all ! How could he possibly not know of your exalted existence.
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July 02, 2009 - 09:58 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Incidentally, Stu, do we have any female (ex)sea-going members? We must be PC you know!
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July 02, 2009 - 06:56 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  Frank Cunningham was always a bit of a card, in a funny sort of way.

I remember that I once banged on his cabin door and walked into his room, after he yelled hello, to discuss ship's business and he wandered into the room from his bathroom completely stark naked. I said, "Jeeze Frank" and he said in his usual gruff voice,
"What's the matter, haven't you seen a naked man before"

On another occassion, he was on the bridge, moaning about how this had changed since he was last there and how that had also changed since he was last there, so I told him, "Tell you what Frank, when you go on leave, let us know your address and if we change anything, I'll write and let you know". To which he replied, "I suppose you think that's funny".......well, I thought it was.

It is, Stu! - MAJB
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July 02, 2009 - 03:40 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Jim, You're a member of a very large club!!!!
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July 01, 2009 - 08:48 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://www.swiremariners.com

  No Jim.....she's not known as the "Ship's Mistress" She's known only as "The Old Woman"
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July 01, 2009 - 06:19 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  I got Frank Cunningham somewhat annoyed when I asked what would be the title of a woman captain,you could hardly call her the ship's mistress,possibly the ship's ms.
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July 01, 2009 - 06:04 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I'm sure you put that piece in to niggle me Bob!
There was a Col. Alec Harper in the 9th Gurkhas but he never went to sea! We did have a Chief Steward on "Yochow" who had been a war-time Captain in the British Army in India/Burma, the last time I saw him he was a head waiter in Jimmy's Kitchen. I seem to recall there was a "Taipan" who had been a rating in the Royal Navy and a Director who had been a private in the army.... shall I go on?
We all know that "Captain" was some honorary title in the M.N., the chap in charge was the Master "under God", (and don't you bloody well forget it !). There's an old boy at my golf club who insists on calling me "Captain", very loudly if the club Captain is around, I think he wants to annoy him!
Golf is a dirty word around here at present, my last game was 20th May! I have another session with the physio on Friday and I'm playing next week whatever she says, can't have all that money and all this good weather go to waste!!
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July 01, 2009 - 01:32 AM
BOB STEER
bobjen@bigpond.net.au

  Then of course there was the Colonel Harper,I am not too sure if he was a colonel in the army or what or just what he called himself?I do know if a Swire ship passed the ship he was on the ensign wouldn't be "dipped"first to that vessel if the master was lower on the pecking order!!
Such was the important things at sea.
Nice to be back on line after a hard drive failure on my 4 month old computor.Now that was an important thing in my life,to get it going again without paying any money to the robbing b.....ds.
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June 30, 2009 - 05:33 PM
Wallaby Supporter

  Darrell, re-the title of the master, when signing on the ships articles, under which position did you sign on ? When I was with BPC one skipper was most upset when the 4th engineer's mail came aboard as it was addressed to Captain ------ As he told the skipper "I am a real Captain, as it was the rank I earned when serving in the army"
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June 30, 2009 - 10:22 AM
Darell Daish
daish@paradise.net.nz

  For Valarie Ann,
I sailed with Ralty on the Szechuan on the Hong Kong to Keelung run. The one thing I remember was that he used to advise the passengers that he was the Master of the ship and not the Captain. The rank of Captain was a Royal Navy one and that of Master was much older and of a higher standing.
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June 29, 2009 - 02:37 AM
Jimmy Crockett
http://www.artsnow.com/jamesesq

  Hey you guys...I have been working on this site for about a week and the ideas are bouncing around in my head and off the wall!
Like What about the SMA golf shirt?
I believe that there is a big game going to be played in the UK shortly?
The shirt badge might need a little adjustment, but Stu's son Matthew is the sensational badge designer, and it is a real knockout job! You might want to have a look at the artsnow site above, and see some of the things that are available right now.
This is guaranteed to blow your socks off!
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June 26, 2009 - 07:13 PM
Valerie-Ann
valeriejones1@mypostoffice.co.uk

  to the Ancient Mariner

That was a typical "Ralty" remark!!

He was an extreme creature of habit - I wnder if he was at sea?
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June 25, 2009 - 01:42 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  For Valerie-Anne,
I sailed with Ralty twice. The story I remember was when the Hong Kong office had overbooked cargo for the ship and sent Ralty a telegram asking "Canst create more space?" The wonderful reply was "Suggest consult Creator!"

Here is a very nice picture of his beloved wife Mary - MAJB
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June 25, 2009 - 09:57 AM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://www.baybytes.com

  A member has written to say that he is just getting around to sending his Christmas cards for last year and where can he find the online SMA Christmas card he remembers once seeing?

Have no fear, it is still available, albeit a ittle buried in the archives. Go to http://www.swiremariners.com/xmascard.html and all will be revealed.

Whenever the web-brat remembers to get around to it, all pages on this site are archived on our Sitemap.
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June 25, 2009 - 06:38 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  Jim you are lucky it was North Shields,if it had been South Shields you would have been clapped into a cell,no messing,the magistrates in South Shields at that time were on par with Justice Jeffries Bloody Assizes in the west country after Monmouths Rebellion and Hanging Judge Roy Bean-the law west of the Pecos. It was in the late forties or early fifties that a Shieldswomen was clapped in a cell for a night for picking a tulip in the Marine Park,her questioning of the magistrate's paternity did n't amuse him. Mind you it was the time a policeman could give you a clout across the lug without being had up for assault,my granda was a policemen in South Shields for 30 years and I heard some stories of how he dealt out clouts from some who had been on the receiving end.
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June 25, 2009 - 12:29 AM
Valerie-Ann
valeriejones1@mypostoffice.co.uk

  I have just been browsing through your very interesting archives - a regular occurrence for me as I find the Ship's Log highly amusing and very informative.

I had been looking for some mention of a very, very, dear old friend of mine. I not only found a mention of him but also an old photograph.

My old friend was your fleet Commodore Van Ralty Woolf and we had been friends for nigh on 20 years, until his sad death.

His nephew, Captain Nigel Hunt, died before Ralty and I think that, so closely following his depair at losing his vivacious wife, Mary, really made his descent more rapid.

I still miss our phone calls and always have a glass of Bristol Cream on a Sunday at midday - and toast him.

I would love to know more about his China Seas days - but he kept telling me he was writing a book and I could read about it instead.
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June 24, 2009 - 11:05 AM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Well........I think it's the good looking guy, second down on the left but I have to say that he looks like the first bloom of youth has departed but well on the way to growing old gracefully.
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June 23, 2009 - 09:46 PM
Jimmy Crockett

  Firstly....your story about the girl! It must be a great joy to her knowing that she is part of a family...Well done, Mark
You may remember I told you about another Beaumont, who was the official artist of the United States Navy around 1970's, we even exchanged paintings, and I still have his ink drawing of a sailing ship in full sail.
As for George the genealogist, my mother told me when I first went to sea that a family of Crocketts from Aberdeen arrived in Western Australia just after the war, and the wifes side of the family were named Holland, and her relatives went with the family Crockett at the same time.
By the way Mark the odd man out in the photo montage, does look a bit like me.
It resembles me how I looked one time when I was hauled up, in front of the Assizes for being drunk and disorderly and maliciously damaging property when I pushed the piano off the stage, in the Bridge Bar in North Shields.
When the judge asked me what I thought was so funny! I replied that I was happy to be back in Blighty, and that last night I thought that I was still in St.Pauli Hamburg! When he asked me when my ship was sailing, I replied, "to-night" he said you better be aboard when it does, if you put a foot on the wharf after this. You Are in the Nick!
If you go back and look at his photo again, you can see that I was telling the truth! Have you ever seen such an honest face in your life?

You flatter the man, surely. Any comment, Mr. Stu of Shields? :) - MAJB
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June 23, 2009 - 06:12 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://www.baybytes.com

  Your Celebrity Quiz for today: which of these faces is NOT a world famous actor commonly known (so we're told) as the Governor of Hong Kong?

Need a clue?  It's not the Beefeater, he prefers curry.

Answers on a postcard, please to: "Hong Kong's Got Talent", The Falcon, High Wycombe, UK.
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June 23, 2009 - 02:37 PM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Yes I have to agree, I have also seen the wonders of Google when I found details of my grandfather and uncle who were both killed in the 1st World War.

My grandfather, at age 40, was blown to bits at Gallipoli in 1915 and they never ever found any of his remains. His name is mentioned on the Helles memorial at Gallipoli, as well as the war memorial at Northallerton, Yorkshire. His son, my uncle and aged just 19, was killed in Belgium in 1918 and he is mentioned on the Tyne Cot memorial for the fallen. Although my grandfather was only 40 when he died, he must have been very busy when he wasn't fighting for his King and Country because I appear to have had a very large number of uncles and aunts, all dead now of course.

Well done Google,
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June 23, 2009 - 06:37 AM
george latham
georgelatham@tadaust.org.au

  Hi Mark,Great story, my hobby is genealogy/family history and I too know that feeling when you make a family connection.To find an uncles heroics on the battlefield or contracting VD in a Port Said Brothel{from medical records}
becomes quiet entertaining reading.Many of these records are online or can be obtained for a fee from the National Archives in London, Canberra, or New Zealand.Any of our members who have never Googled their name should try it also on Google Images you may be surprised.God Bless Google.

Happy Hunting George
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June 22, 2009 - 09:14 PM
Mark Beaumont
MABeaumont@aol.com http://www.baybytes.com

  I know that, by now, most of us take for granted the marvel of instant worldwide communication we can enjoy in this Ship's Log. Hurts when it goes offline occasionally, doesn't it? Amazing where we've come to, for sure...

I have recently been able to use the Internet's resources in quite a different way; a way that has turned out to be richly rewarding.

A couple of weeks back, I was approached privately on the social network 'Facebook' by someone who shared my surname and wondered - quite out of the blue - whether I might be her father's brother. Her story, in a nutshell, is that her father died from a brain tumour at 31 years old, when she was only 1. What hurts her, firstly, apart from his premature departure, is that the tumour rendered him blind and that - according to her mother - he never saw her. The story worsens, however, as the mother appears to have been an absolute horror, beating and abusing her as a child. I suspect that the mother was an alcoholic, although I have not pressed the girl on this. Anyway, her mother did not even tell her that she HAD a father until she was 14 years old, and only then because a relative of the mother's brought up the subject in front of her daughter, it seems. Suffice to say that the mother and daughter have not spoken for years now - my new friend is 23, with her own children already, as a single mother (no surprises there) - and, basically, has no family, because she has never known who they are, or even where.

She does now.

Working on a couple of clues she gave me, I spent some time - not much time, amazingly - playing with Google. Within an hour or two I came upon a fellow who has extensively documented, as a hobby, our family name in a certain part of England on which I had started to focus. Bingo. Almost immediately, he had identified her extended family on her father's side, together with the father's place of burial and much more.

I cannot tell you how good this makes me feel to have facilitated this discovery for this young girl. I do not know what will come of my help here - I hope it will be all good for her - but I do know how very happy I have made her.

Off topic, I realize, but I just wanted to share this with friends here. This is something wonderful to me. Thank you, Google!

Mark

P.S. No Nigerians involved here, as far as I can ascertain... certainly, there are scams out there that play on peoples' emotions, and I am the first to be careful of those. But I do believe that this was a genuine quest, and well resolved.
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June 22, 2009 - 06:45 AM
Jimmy Crockett

  OH! NO! Gilbert! Does this mean that if I want to make mare friends ....then I'll have tae spend mare money? Sounds unlikely tae me!
But up to now I have made more friends in SMA since I joined, than all the chat-rooms I've played in on the internet.
Maybe havin' a big heart is an unheralded quality that everybody has in here!
I mean it's not everyday that the Treasurer/Secretary of SMA tells the former Gov. of HK that he's got a big heart!
It makes Jim Snapes by-pass surgery sound more like a celebration than an operation!
I'll bet he wizna scare't at a'!
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June 22, 2009 - 02:49 AM
Gilbert Reid.
reidgilbert@hotmail.com

  Hi Jimmy,
if somebody told me I had a very big heart I would check up on my spending habits!!
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June 21, 2009 - 05:04 PM
Stu
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  You've just got a big heart James.
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June 21, 2009 - 09:56 AM
Jimmy Crockett

  Jim Snape said.......over 26 years ago which was diagnosed over the years as an old lung illness, healed and inactive.....Stone the bleeding' crows!..and now you remind me that I had this same experience around 1962 where I got a series of injections...... and eventually I was given the all clear! ....But like I said, I had no idea about the asbestos thing till last year! So maybe that was what I had way back then!.....Crikey! I really didn't get away with after all?.....and I remember having a health check in 1990 (plus a chest X-ray)and I got this line from the doc.......an old lung illness, healed and inactive, but there were no similar signs, from this last X-ray I had!
You know! It really puzzled me (1962) I could not think how I could have got TB, which also puzzled the doctor!.I will definitely keep this in mind for further concern!
The thing about the heart comment, ......to be more exact! ...he said my heart was very big!....but then I have never had any heart problems. No sudden pains or shocks.. So why would I have a swollen heart?
Your comments nevertheles have been noted Jim......
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June 21, 2009 - 05:23 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I thought that old bugger at Point Samson drank a dozen before breakfast! Did anyoneone ever get in to Roebourne where there was an old gaol?
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June 21, 2009 - 05:20 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  jim snape to jim crockett.

whoops! I missed out the word 'not' between did and recognise,something I sometimes did in letters to Technical Manager causing all kinds of bewilderment. Sorry!
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June 21, 2009 - 05:11 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  To james Crockett.
Hello james,you said in your message of 19th June that an xray after your roof accident found you had an enlarged heart,I do not want to worry you but you may have a heart problem and should see a heart specialist. I speak from experience as I had open heart surgery for aortic valve replacement Jan 2006,an enlarged
heart was one of my symptoms.The doctor I previously consulted was not a heart specialist and did recognise the problem.

It was the same with asbestosis,I was found to have a left pleural thickening over 26 years ago which was diagnosed over the years as an old lung illness,healed and inactive. It was found to be asbestosis during my heart eaminations when the xray and C.T scan was seen by a chest doctor who was a asbestosis specialist.jim.
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June 20, 2009 - 04:21 AM
george latham
georgelatham@tadaust.org.au

  Spot on James, 12 doz oysters for 12Aus shillings.Can you remember Sandy the short rotund wharfie supervisor,drank a
dozen cans VB before lunch.Memories.
George
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June 19, 2009 - 08:27 PM
Jimmy Crockett

  HEY! This is quite new to me! I just found this out recently after I joined SMA. last year. When I was 3rd. mate, I used to climb up and down the hatches and stamp the dust off my shoes, when I got back on deck! Ole' Shmok ! I must have been breathing this stuff!
But then, when I had the accident on my roof last March I had a chest X-ray! I remember what the doc told me was a bit strange he said that my heart had expanded in size, but there was no mention of any spots on my lungs! But at the same time I didn't bother to tell him that I hadn't had a cold or the flu in the past thirty or forty years, which didn't seem pertinent at the time! So since I have never had any respiratory problems in my life.
Struth! I must have got away with it!
I liked Point Samson, seeing all them big sharks swimming bye, and George Latham and me puttering around Shark Bay in the life-boat! Really a desolate and beautiful place at the same time....there was nothing there. Yes I remember now! In fact!....I was the first CNCo. trader ever to land there! An elderly lady resident came down to the ship and she sold me a 2lb jam jar full of delicious rock oysters! It was the first time she had ever seen such a big ship, so I invited her aboard and we had afternoon tea in my cabin, and I got stuck into them oysters! And after that the old dear went home with a great adventure story to tell her family & friends!
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June 19, 2009 - 11:40 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Pretty blue stuff, I recall, rather like a marble with rope yarn running through it. Great place for fishing, Point Samson, also for target practice if the agent brought down the ammo for the .38's. I understand it is now a resort? The P&I club paid compensation to the wharfies some years ago.
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June 19, 2009 - 09:42 AM
george latham
georgelatham@tadaust.org.au

  In support of Jims suggestion members who
visited Point Samson on the asbestos run
should Google Point Samson Asbestosis and read some of the links relating to this deadly cargo from Whittenoom Gorge.
George.
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June 19, 2009 - 07:40 AM
jim snape
ma34hn68ml@kcn.jp

  Early 2006 I posted a message that I had been diagnosed as having sbestosis and I said that it would be wise for members to be checked for this.My annual check with a CT scan found a small tumour in the right lung which could he malignant and caused by the asbestos,a further check with a PET scan = positron emmision tomograpy -found no cancer but I will
be having ongoing checks.

My doctor said that I cannot be the only one with asbestosis.
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June 19, 2009 - 01:53 AM
James M Crockett

  Tim Metzger the cinemaphotographer?
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June 18, 2009 - 02:19 PM
Tim Metzger
tim.metzger@mobsel.be

  Norman Hill; I remember the night it happen, as a young 11 year old living in Bowen road. It also happen to be Cup Final Day (Arsenal v Liverpool) and listening to the match, (we could only see the match three days later on TV) when we heard the large bang.

It was not until the morning that we knew it was a bomb, when opening the papers to be confronted with the graphic pictures.
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June 15, 2009 - 06:11 AM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  I recall that incident, he left a party to tackle a 'device' on the door of HK Bank, perhaps a little careless?
Small world that it is, when we were house-hunting around Bexhill we looked at one property which had a lot of oriental artifacts in it, when I queried the lady owner she said they had come from her late brother, a HK police Inspector who had been blown up while trying to remove a bomb from the tramlines. I lived next door to the Deputy Commisioner at the time but we didn't seem to have any extra protection! A year or so after the riots subsided we did have a device on the driveway, Charles Sutcliffe apologised for the inconvenience and said the culprits must have got the wrong address! Made a nice pop when it was blown up. Happy days!
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June 15, 2009 - 04:40 AM
James Crockett

  Norman Hill.....that was the name of the bomb disposal technician who lost his hand!
But don't forget the European traffic motorcycle policeman (a senior Inspector) who was blown apart. He used to throw a plastic bucket on a long string over the parcels and stand round the corner of a building and give the line a yank. If they didn't explode, he would consider them a fake bomb. And it saved having to block off another road junction from traffic to dismantle the dud!. Quite clever actually.

The Star newspaper really pissed off the police force by publishing a photo of his mangled body (no face, no leg) right across the complete width - all 8 (?) columns of the paper, before his widow had been notified. The cops had to place a guard around the widow to make sure she didn't see the photograph in the newspaper.
David Harvey covered the riots extensively, he was an Aussie working for the News Media at the time, and later worked for Commercial radio!
But there were some amusing incidents that shouldn't go unreported, and this one was in Macau!
Yes! after leaving riot torn HK @ 6.pm. When the Ferry arrived in Macau the evening riot show was still going strong in Macau! What happened was that the bus workers, stopped working as a bus service employees and loaded up their buses with screaming & singing commie patriots and drove all around Macau spreading the news of their victory over the Capitalist Exploiters of the working class.
Then to everybody's surprise!
Ho Yin who was the sole owner of the Bus Company in Macau! Made an astonishing announcement!
To show his sympathy for the struggling masses! He decided to hand over the whole bus company to his employees!
De! De! De! WHAT???
So with immediate effect, the buses and maintenance garages, and the offices of the Macau Bus Company were now owned by the drivers, conductors, and the grease monkeys! Plus the cleaners!
So this wonderful magnanimous benefactor, had in one bold bewildering stroke, denuded himself of the responsibility of driving the people to work every day, and turned the exploited rioting labourers into capitalist executives of a money spinning transport company!
What happened to that famous supportive declaration, "Je suis le proletariat?"
I mean it was just hilarious, and when we heard it, it was just hearsay, and hadn't been officially announced, which made it even more funny when it was announced!!
But to get back to mainstream again, as the Police Chief Inspector George Latham from Australia was telling us!
Yes George all us Kwailo's in HK do look the same! (Did somebody bribe you to say that George?)
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June 14, 2009 - 07:02 PM
James Crockett

  Don't know Stu, what did Ronnie Barker do to get porridge? Wasn't he one of the great train bandits!
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June 14, 2009 - 04:49 PM
James Crockett

  Yes! AM...I remember that, Godper had his moments of valour & loyalty, I was on the SS Macau at the time. We sailed @ 1800 hours every evening, and I remember that eerie feeling around 5-30pm when Central was empty, making my way to the Macau Ferry Wharf! What was also interesting about that time of the riots was that my Steward on the ship was a high up member of the local communist party (Or so he told me?) and he proudly gave me a run down of the events of the day! he was particularly amused when the bomb disposal expert lost his hand while defusing a device. He glibly suggested that the injured man go to China to have his hand sewn back on! I knew the fellow who was injured quite well, and now I am going mad trying to remember his name....the name Brown is somewhere in my head! After the incident and the riots over, he was definitely a very jolly fellow, always smiling and friendly! A remarkable cove indeed!
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June 14, 2009 - 03:30 PM
Stu
SShie70652@aol.com http://swiremariners.com

  Didn't Godber end up in "Porridge" with Ronnie Barker?
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June 14, 2009 - 01:30 PM
Ancient Mariner
mauber85@tiscali.co.uk

  Davy,
Upon reflection, the pic of you that Mark put up is not too unlike Sir David Trench!
Just to put the record staight, Peter Godber was uncovered by the anti-corruption branch of the RHK Police well before ICAC came into being. He was uncovered but not detained, he immediately disappeared. The Police first thought he had gone on "Coral Princess" as he had left his car, reg.no. 1066, on the top floor of the Ocean Terminal car park and "CP" had sailed that midnight. Callum Anderson may remember getting a message asking if he had any unexpected caucasians aboard, (it was a Japanese charter). When the anti-corruption boys came to the office the next morning I was staggerd when they produced a pic of the 'wanted man'. I had been a guest at the parade when Peter Godber received his QPM from Princess Alexandra.
Whatever his failings as a bent copper in later years, I will remember Peter Godber as the Superintendent holding the line across Garden Road in 1967, stopping the rioters from getting to Govt.House. When activities slackened off he sent for tea from the Hilton Hotel opposite!
In view of recent events, I do